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Former good article nomineeUnited Airlines was a Engineering and technology good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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airline apologists[edit]

we cannot have reasonably reported news about customer service disputes stifled because editors are apologists for the airlinesRsarlls (talk) 06:10, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

What? Mirza Ahmed (talk) 00:41, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

NONSTOP FOREIGN FLIGHTS[edit]

Theoretically you could use any cutoff for the table (5000 or 6000 or even 7000 miles The LAX-SYD is a good cutoff because it was established by PanAm.

miles

  • 8,440 San Francisco, CA Singapore, Singapore
  • 8,063 Newark, NJ Hong Kong, Hong Kong
  • 7,919 Los Angeles, CA Melbourne, Australia
  • 7,806 Newark, NJ Mumbai, India
  • 7,793 Chicago, IL Hong Kong, Hong Kong
  • 7,487 Los Angeles, CA Sydney, Australia
  • ===
  • 7,422 San Francisco, CA Tel Aviv, Israel
  • 7,417 San Francisco, CA Sydney, Australia
  • 7,384 Newark, NJ Shanghai, China
  • 7,324 Newark, NJ Delhi, India
  • 7,057 Chicago, IL Shanghai, China
  • 6,927 San Francisco, CA Hong Kong, Hong Kong
  • 6,921 Washington, DC Beijing, China
  • 6,871 San Francisco, CA Chengdu, China
  • 6,831 Newark, NJ Beijing, China
  • 6,753 Washington, DC Tokyo, Japan
  • 6,732 Newark, NJ Tokyo, Japan
  • 6,643 Houston, TX Tokyo, Japan
  • 6,579 Chicago, IL Beijing, China
  • 6,489 San Francisco, CA Xi'an, China
  • 6,485 Los Angeles, CA Shanghai, China
  • 6,469 San Francisco, CA Taipei, Taiwan
  • 6,274 Chicago, IL Tokyo, Japan
  • 6,252 San Francisco, CA Hangzhou, China
  • 6,151 San Francisco, CA Shanghai, China
  • 5,913 San Francisco, CA Beijing, China
  • 5,879 San Francisco, CA Munich, Germany
  • 5,799 Denver, CO Tokyo, Japan
  • 5,699 San Francisco, CA Frankfurt, Germany
  • 5,692 Newark, NJ Tel Aviv, Israel
  • 5,659 San Francisco, CA Seoul, South Korea
  • 5,583 San Francisco, CA Paris, France
  • 5,456 Los Angeles, CA London, United Kingdom
  • 5,451 Los Angeles, CA Tokyo, Japan
  • 5,417 Houston, TX Munich, Germany
  • 5,413 San Francisco, CA Osaka, Japan
  • 5,367 San Francisco, CA London, United Kingdom
  • 5,233 Houston, TX Frankfurt, Germany
  • 5,222 Chicago, IL Sao Paulo, Brazil
  • 5,142 San Francisco, CA Tokyo, Japan
  • 5,062 Houston, TX Ezeiza, Argentina
  • 5,016 Houston, TX Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
  • 5,012 Houston, TX Amsterdam, Netherlands

Pacomartin (talk) 17:19, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

And the point of this would be what, exactly? As you mentioned Sydney, UA is just one of four airlines that operate non-stop between LAX and SYD - two Australian and two American; two other airlines operate SYD - DFW, which is more than a thousand miles further, and another operates SYD - YVR, also further. YSSYguy (talk) 23:16, 20 February 2018 (UTC)


I don't think there is any point in 25 routes. But United is very proud of having the three longest flights of US Carriers.

Longest non-stop flights[edit]

On 1 June 2016, United launched nonstop flights between San Francisco and Singapore.[1] On 1 June 2017, United announced its Los Angeles/Singapore nonstop service.[2] On 7 September 2017, United announced that it will begin daily, nonstop service between Houston and Sydney on 18 January 2018. With this addition United flies the three longest flights by a U.S. carrier.[3]

Rank Distance USA Foreign Flight
number
Aircraft
1 8,770 mi (7,621 nmi; 14,114 km) Los Angeles Singapore UA 37 Boeing 787-9
2 8,596 mi (7,470 nmi; 13,834 km) Houston Sydney UA 101
3 8,447 mi (7,340 nmi; 13,594 km) San Francisco Singapore UA 1

Pacomartin (talk) 13:01, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "UA 1: San Francisco - Singapore Takes Flight". United Airlines. 1 June 2016. Retrieved 14 February 2018. 
  2. ^ "United Airlines Announces Nonstop Service Between Los Angeles and Singapore". United Airlines. 1 June 2017. Retrieved 14 February 2018. 
  3. ^ "United Airlines Strengthens Commitment to Houston with Nonstop Service Between Houston and Sydney". United Airlines. 7 September 2017. Retrieved 14 February 2018. 

I am happy to see that Singapore is not called Singapore, Singapore, which is an American-only way of reference. I recommend that there be reconsideration of the column labelled as "foreign". Vanguard10 (talk) 01:56, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

@Vanguard10: See my first attempt at wording to address the latter; IAH, SFO, and LAX are UA hubs whereas SYD and SIN are not. CaradhrasAiguo (talk) 02:19, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Controversies and customer service problems[edit]

It is clear we need to cover any important criticism but balanced against the 90 years history of the airline this section can be culled to about two entries of any importance, the rest is just tabloid non-encyclopedic trivia. We also need to consider Recentism and Balance when weighed against the 143 million passengers that were carried that presumably didnt complain or have an issue. Just looking for thoughts rather than just edit the trivia away, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 14:01, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

  • I agree with you. Everything can go on the list with the exception of Guitars and 3411....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:58, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
Adverse publicity seems to generate more adverse publicity and it's getting out of hand in my opinion. The section makes United look like the worst airline in the world. Too much weight. YSSYguy (talk) 19:08, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
Airlines lose or mis-send luggage all the time. It happening to pets once in a while like recent can't be a isolated instance. From the summer of 1996 to early 2002 I was an elite Northwest Airlines Frequent Flyer who did nearly 500,000 flight miles during that time. My bags were mishandled once (And it was KLM in Amsterdam who codeshared with NW who didn't send the luggage to Warsaw like they were supposed to not NW) and NW supposedly didn't have a good reputation. They did fine with me for all those flights covering the most part of six years. Only once did I not get a first class upgrade....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 20:58, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments, I agree with WilliamJE suggestion and tweaked accordingly. MilborneOne (talk) 15:55, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
There should be something about the french bull dog puppy. It's an exploding issue with lots of references, protests, public officials (state and federal), and celebrities commenting on it.
Why, wikipedia is not a tabloid. MilborneOne (talk) 00:21, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

I generally agree with the view that Wikipedia is not a tabloid. However, in the dead dog in the overhead (bull dog puppy), there may be merit in inclusion for the following reasons.

  • extensive worldwide coverage
  • resulted in the next United Airlines dog being transported by non-stop long range private jet (Bombardier Global Express) charter from Japan to Wichita, Kansas, at a cost of around a quarter of a million dollars as well as a EWR-STL United flight making an emergency landing in CAK to drop off a dog bound for CAK that was mistakenly loaded to the flight. The dog flown from Japan was mistakenly transported there instead of on a domestic US flight. The dead dog resulted in at least two huge reactions to prevent another highly publicized dog death.
  • resulted in permanent change to pet policy, including a new red tag to alert flight attendants of pets in the cabin and legislation in the U.S. Senate introduced by Senator Kennedy banning animal carriage in overhead compartments. Wow!

Point 3 makes it especially notable, but added to that #1 and, to some extent, #2. Vanguard10 (talk) 01:44, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/03/15/senator-plans-file-bill-prohibiting-airlines-from-putting-pets-overhead-bins/z0hwvXyN8c78vlWEJBAPkJ/story.html Senator plans to file bill prohibiting airlines from putting pets in overhead bins

https://cohen.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/donovan-cohen-introduce-bipartisan-bill-banning-pets-overhead Donovan, Cohen Introduce Bipartisan Bill Banning Pets from Overhead Compartments Measure is in response to a dog's death on a United Airlines flight

Washington, DC – March 15, 2018….Congressman Dan Donovan (NY-11) today introduced legislation banning dogs from overhead compartments after Kokito, a French bulldog, died on a United Airlines flight. Kokito’s owner says a flight attendant required her to put her 10-month old dog in the overhead compartment and he did not survive the flight. Congressman Steve Cohen (TN-9) is the lead Democratic cosponsor on the legislation....The bill, titled the PETS (Planes Ensuring Total Safety) Act, will require the Federal Aviation Administration to ban pets from flying in overhead compartments and institute fines on airlines that fail to comply with the law. Donovan’s PETS Act already has a Senate companion, called the WOOFF Act, after Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA) agreed to carry the proposal in his chamber

http://wgntv.com/2018/03/15/united-airlines-to-use-special-tags-for-pet-carriers-after-dog-death/ United Airlines to use special tags for pet carriers after dog death CHICAGO — United Airlines plans to issue bright colored bag tags to people traveling with pets to prevent animal carriers from being placed in overhead bins following the death of a puppy on one of its flights.

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Below by 143.215.123.181

James Corden and Olivia Munn have both publicly spoken out against United Airlines over this French bulldog tragedy.

It is still not noteworthy, I am sure if you look at the 90-year history loads of people let alone animals have died on United aircraft, stuff happens but it doesnt make it noteworthy. Adding anything on what was a fairly minor incident is undue weight. MilborneOne (talk) 15:00, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
United's piss-poor 2017-2018+ media image is obviously noteworthy. The countless references, the celebrities, the congressmen, the agencies involved. It's a huge fact that can't be ignored and obviously isn't. Does wikipedia need to wait for the obvious books that will be written?
I agree with Milborne. If you want to write about United Airlines, start your own website. The last time I looked you can start one for free at blogspot....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 19:01, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Snarky biased wikipedia editors. Sad.

Here's the latest United headline.

http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2018/06/20/united-airlines-flight-attendant-slams-travel-writer-for-tweeting-about-bad-service.html

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